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So, I’ve been dating this girl…she’s cool…nice person. We’ve had sex a couple times, things are good. Would not say I’m “in love” or anything at this point, but….

So we had the first casual drop of “pantyhose” into a random discussion. She was asking what I wore to work, and then I asked her what she wears…she told me (dress pants or jeans or some such boring thing), abd then without any prompting by me said

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To say the least, I was bummed. We were driving, and I just kind of zoned out. I thought about countering her, and explaining how that disappoints me, but I froze in sad realization. I just said “yeah, i hear you.”….Sucks - I didn’t tell her what I really thought about that.

I know i’ll get differing opinions here, but what do you think? should I “try” to get her “into” pantyhose or tights (i love tights), to try and explain the sexual allure of them for some guys, try to get her to think of them in a sexy, sex-aiding way? or, is it no use - she just won’t get it.

I mean, of course I can deal with a girl being neutral on pantyhose or just like, “whatever” about them. After all, most women don’t have the fetish. BUT - when they actively, without warning, say they “hate” them, well, fuck, I get turned off.

The problem is I feel shallow if I end it because of that. It makes me feel like my life is run by a fetish or something.

Darn - today turned into a depressing day - and she would have no idea why, whatsoever. She doesn’t even realize that she said the wrong thing to me…
Yeah that is not a good beginning. She needs to avoid control top and buy pantyhose in the right size. How can thigh highs possibly be more comfortable with that band around your thighs for hours?
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I agree…i mean, c’mon! i would think, as a woman, that wearing high quality pantyhose or tights must feel good on the pussy when worn with no underwear…I mean, maybe I’m wrong, but..the nylon whisping against it…you know?

I don’t know what to do…I mean, *maybe* i could convince her otherwise, but it just bums me out that I’d even have to fight the battle. She’s cool, seems open minded, etc….but again, I hate starting “behind the eight ball” if you will.

Ugh. UGH!
I might be alone in the “go for broke” opinion, but I think you need to amend your “Yeah, I hear you” comment, and do it soon. As casually and non-threateningly as you can, say what you originally intended to say about it disappointing you.

This issue is obviously important enough to you that you’re questioning whether you’ll stay together, so she needs to know A.S.A.P. what you really think, and you need to know A.S.A.P. how she’ll respond to it, and what sort of hope there is for a turnaround. I’m assuming right now she has taken your “I hear you” comment to mean you have no real opinion on the subject or (worse) that you agree with her that hose suck.

Be light about it, stress that it’s sexy (and that you think it would be especially sexy on HER) and don’t be ashamed about “the fetish running your life.” It’s part of your sexual identity.
Dude, I am going through the exact same thing right now. THis chick won’t wear any kind of nylons or tights or pantyhose or anything. She’s very sure of it. She doesn’t realize that it’s what ends the relationship, but she always comes back looking to restart it. What the hell!

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I don’t think knowing what you like and pursuing it is being shallow Greenfly. People pursue things that are damaging to self and others all day long. I have not seen pantyhose fetish do any damage thus far. I have only seen it make life more interesting and enjoyable. I would not write her an email. Effective communication would be to address her verbally in the same way that she addressed you on this issue. Regardless how difficult it might be to say, she needs to know that her despising of pantyhose affects the relationship between you. Also tell her how you felt when you heard her say that. It sounds like she has never been challenged and new information would provide her an opportunity to reconsider. People only change when they no longer get the payoffs and their beliefs cost more than they get from them. You are the most important person in her life right now. You cause change.

I don’t know, at first when I read what she said, I felt like it was a dagger through my heart. So I thought it looked pretty bleak for you.

But then I remembered a girl I dated once who would say the same type of thing. And it came up more than once and each time she repeated the same type of argument, that they are uncomfortable and all that, each time.

But after a few months of dating, she was getting curious about what types of thing turned me on, so eventually I mentioned that pantyhose do and before long she was wearing them for me on special occasions!

I think the important thing was that she brought it up more or less by asking me what turns me on. I didn’t bring it up out of the blue, and I certainly tried to down-play my interest in them. I made it seem like it was a nice extra and I was sure to mention that a few other unrelated things turned me on as well.

So I guess it depends on the type of girl. If she’s the open minded type and/or if she’s into you and willing to do whatever she can for you, then you might have a shot!
thanks….more good thoughts. Yeah, maybe I’ll ask her what “turns her on”, that kind of thing, and then when she asks me, start with “well, do you remember what you said about hose? well….” and go from there…

and I think you’re right - adding in other things would be good. Hmm, what would those be? really, besides tights/pantyhose, not sure what other “lightly kinky” stuff i like…I mean, I like roleplay, but it’s always tied to nylon…

In any event, I think i’ve got a good foundation.

Life would be so easy if you could tell who’s a nylon girl *before* you start going out….

well, i guess you could *see* someone wearing nylon and approach from there. My issue is that I usually end up with funky, independent minded girls that i think sometimes don’t like hose because of what it can stand for (the office, old-time dress up etc)…BUT - I know alot of the style girls i like, the funkier girls, DO often dress in tights…so, they are out there.

This girl i’m dating has great legs too…a shame. PANTS- every single time i see her. And I said something light hearted, and she said, “well you’ll have to see if you’re still with me in summer to see some leg.” ARGH! not what I meant honey….grrrrrrrr….

I’m almost 55 and have been around this fetish for a looong time! I have found that if a woman tries high quality sheer PH she might change her mind about PH in general. Keep in mind that a lot of woman were weaned on cheap super market PH that literally can suck. When the time is right to bring up the subject again, you might ask if she has ever tried any Italian light denier PH that breath or Berkshire or Hanes ultra sheers. Some woman I’ve known have gotten “spoiled” by the experience and will never wear the cheap crap again.
Well if she likes wearing thigh highs, then you are 75% of the way there lol. Hey look at it this way, at least she likes wearing nylons, start off with her wearign thigh highs, also let her know how much her thigh highed nyloned legs get you hot, as the relationship progresses, maybe then you can eventually mention that as much as nylon makes her legs look so sexy, youd love to see her in soem quality pantyhose to show off her super sext butt, then get her into some high quality pantyhose. if you play your cards right, by then you would no doubt be able to get her to try different things with you. I have been in the same situation and believe me, women like to be desired and you can get her into pantyhose, just dont be too pushy.
The fact that pantyhose are a turn-on is not going to make her want to wear them. It does not matter what you tell her.

If she likes thigh highs and you are happy with that, great, but if it needs to be PH then there is a problem

You love pantyhose, as all of us PHD’ers do. It is something we need.

If your lady cannot satisfy your need(s) then it is time to end the relationship and move on. I once had a GF who pretty much refused to wear hose, and it sucked. The one time she wore, I just was not feeling it cause it was just a bad aura knowing how she felt.

It may sound shallow, but why be unhappy? Guys, do you think our women would want us if we didn’t work or even want to work?

Loving pantyhose is not something we can help and it is not asking a lot of our lovers to wear them for us now and again. Maybe I am lucky cause my lady, while not “turned on” by it per se, has no problem wearing for me.
Well how long have you been dating? Sometimes these things take time. The longer you are together and the morte you feel comfortable and open about communication, the better. I have dated women who hated wearign any kind of hose but eventually they learned to like the attention they got when they wore them, but it takes time. Let her really start to develop feelings for you. Dont make pantyhose THE ISSUE in your relationship. You dont want her to feel that you wanna be dating a pair of pantyhose and she just happens to be in them. That will make things hard in all your relationships.
Don’t get depressed just yet.

I have been in this SAME exact situation before and have rode the intial rejection out only to be rewarded later. Hey..the relationship is new..give it some time.

She said she doesn’t like wearing to work, maybe in the future she won’t mind wearing for fun!
If you see my previous post I was in the same boat. Dating a girl in the early stages and not knowing if she liked pantyhose and tights. So i sent an e-mail and explained my love for a woman who dresses sexy especially with hose.

It worked for me every time we have gone out since she has had hose on.

She loves turning me on ! What we get up to under the dinner table I will leave to your imagination. I was lucky she doesn’t mind hose. In fact I have been pleasently surprised at the variety of hose she has. She didn’t by them especially for me. She just had to be reminded to dress like a girl! Like most women she was in the routine of wearing pants.

If I had received negative feedback from her regarding wearing pantyhose I would have been gone!!!!
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