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i met a drainbow and he was so cool to hang out with at the gathering… we got stoned, he was fun to be with, we didn’t have to do all that hard work… it was just hanging out and being happy… just like hippies are supposed… so i think rainbows should love the drainbows and then everyone will be happy
i think you’re mistaken what a word "drainbow" is because it’s not something to be proud of. A drainbow is someone who constantly takes from you. Whatever you give them does not satisfy them. They do not work to help out the community. I don’t hate them, so don’t get that assumption.

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you can’t give until you are able to recieve so if they recieve, that’s good i think

have you ever hung out with drainbows? they are really cool and love to party

while people are working, they do a good job of keeping the happyness flowing and that’s important
that shows that the drainbows are good people cuz you have to call them not nice names
if you could love and respect drainbows, then you could see their beauty
I have some very good friends who would be considered drainbows. Yea, they are fun to hang with and party with, but in the end, they do nothing BUT that. I love ‘em for who they are, but can not expect any thing else from them, so deal with them as they are. However, when it comes time for them to ask for a place to stay for a while, the answer is NO. I will not support them, nor will I pick up after them, nor will I supply them with food, tobacco, drugs, or anything else that they do not earn somehow. It’s called Karma. There is only so much free ride, and if I go beyond that I start not liking them any more…
Gatherings wouldn’t happen if somebody didn’t do the work and work doesn’t have to be hard. we feel sorry for drainbows because they’ll never know the beautiful feeling of being able to give, of being able to help the circle continue. Some blissininnies contribute to the circle; they play music, they offer an ear for a heartsong; so even if they aren’t cutting veggies or digging shitters they are giving. A drainbow always takes which steals good energy from someone who is giving; and leaves the good energy someplace where it dies. we think it’s better to give our energy to those who will recieve it, add to it & help it grow…
ide like to adress the issue of labeling people in the first place…perhaps someone might appear to b doing nothing all day, but i doubt uve seen them the whole day, maybe they dug a shitter that morning, and spent the rest of the day sitting around…i dont think anyone is a complete drainbow and thus not a drainbow at all… is someone a drainbow because they take more than they give, if so doesnt that depend on how much value is givin to wat…
labeling can suck, but so does someone who actually does nothing…have a drainbow stay with you a while & you’ll know why the label developed
ha ha ha whats that story of the rabbit that wanted to bake a cake and no one would help to bake it, but in the end they all wanted to eat it….. I always think of that childrens story when this subject is brought up….. but ya, if ya wanna eat earn your keep….. somehow….

Mike…
honostly, i wouldnt care, however i live by myself and have much more than i can use myself…i can understand if ure living in a house with lets say, 10 people, and uve got a guy doing nothing but eating and sitting on the couch
thats all some ppl do at a gatherin is eat n sit by the side of the trail with a bowl on a string..
dont feed the bridge trolls…lol

jikun ifcourse.. some folks take whole gatherins off to bliss.. they desserve it…
theres nobody in particular i call a drainbow.. but are bridge trolls workin or not?
at gatherins work can be mant rhings music poetry food bridges hugs stayin for cleanup..pickin up butts ez job usualy several gatherins only found 7-10 till the 4th
some ppl can be a drain at times…but yea i guess ppl become full drainbow when theyre on your couch for months

molly the Hippy is our old friend cheif cowpie and you fell for him again.
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i am not chief cowpie and skip will ban anyone who says that i am cuz he’ll do whatever i ask him
thats the beauty of rainbow..if u wanna be molly be molly..noone would judge ya for havin a lil micheal jackson fantasy ..u cn be a 16 year old girl if u want..just dont go round sleepin with no 10 yr old boys
nobody will ban yafrom rainbow
thats the primary purpose of drainbows..to constantly remind us that we accept everyone, drainbowsand all
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you are a wise hippy, soaring eagle… i want to be a great hippy like you
your a trippy hippy molly
one of the trippiest i know and i know alotta trippy hippies
that makes ya great
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exactly..i’m offered stuff constantly..i dont dose, but i’,m offered doses all the time..and weed..im offered way more then i could possibly smoke or eat
its only the 1’s constantly looking that never seem to find

when u see a brother or sister just floating by, all bliss and joy and love…ya wanna say het wanna smoke some weed ya beautiful ppl.. but when u see some troll..miserably whinning..i havent been stoned in a week please please please smoke all your weed with me.. 1, ya know they must be lying.. sand 2 ya just wish theyd shut ip and have some fun

and even if u smoke all your weed with em..does it change anything? nope, they just keep on whinning

bumbles..i love ya

oh was those bowls carved intoa live tree? that really sux..who did that?
how come rainbows don’t like trees who curve bowel movements onto drainbows?

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Molly, for anything to function there has to be work. if no one worked, then nothing would get done. As for your question, it doesn’t make sense…try rewording it? that’s prolly why u didn’t get an answer.
It’s a strange questrion that makes no sense…but carving on trees goes against rap 107…Harm no living thing

& Drainbows don’t keep the party going….the folks who risk so much to bring sacraments to the Circle do…
I tend to agree with earthmother. A drainbow by definition is a drain on the community. They suck the life energy and resources of others. Each of us have different things to give to the community. Some give physical labor, digging shitters, cooking, gathering firewood, etc. Some give wisdom, spiritual energy, music, blessings less tangible of all kinds. Some are focalizers, peacemakers, speaders of the love via hugs and blessings. they man info booths, C.A.L.M. and many other jobs. They give into the well of the community. All draw out of the well. But some never help to maintain and fill the well with the life giving water of our money, time, energy, effort, and love. They just take and take and take. These people deserve to be called drainbows. But we love them too. The Rainbow family is just that a family. We must all contribute to its well being and to its needs. Or it will cease to be. I have known many who have been labeled "drainbows". Some were just silly people, some were just to into themselves, some were out and out users. I love them for they are my brothers and sisters too. I just refuse to allow them to drain my energy and resources. I give them food and I give them what I can and I try to point them toward a path of community. It is nice to just party and have fun at gatherings. But there is much work that must be done if it is to get done. I have probably been labeled that a time or two. As sometimes I wasn’t in a place to be able to give much in the way of physical labor or financial or whatever. But I did what I could. I contributed what I did have to give. Which is all anyone can expect or ask.

Peace and love to all, Cricket
soooo….. how hi-holy can this thread go?

I just love seeing how Rainbow are so judgmental of one another.

I guess without drainbows, all the "kind" brothers and sisters would not have anyone to look down upon or talk negative about!

God only knows… a TRUE Rainbow’s shit don’t stink and they fart roses!

And… Rainbow just would not be the same… if there were not a bunch of people constantly running their mouths about how much better they are than other people!

GOT TO SHOW THE TRUE RAINBOW SPIRIT!

I love the way, that people truly show how pathetic they are, when they are tying to describe how much better they are than other people.

Glad that all these folks sleep so well at night knowing that they are the "cream of the crop"… Got to get a good night’s sleep to be able to hold them noses up in the air all day! Must be pretty tiring work indeed! How they find all the time to dedicate to deciding who is a drainbow or not…. I will never know!

SO…. who sets the unofficial regulations on what is or who is a rainbow or not… besides a few of you all?

Is there some sort of I AM BETTER THAN YOU Rap that I failed to read?

How do I learn how to stink of ego and fart roses?

Please point me in the right direction!!!
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If someone is giving into the circle with wisdom, music ect, then they are not a drainbow…but you don’t seem to want to understand that Molly

Come on Poorphucker, give me a break…I don’t spend a lot of time judging people & everyone gets treated the same in our kitchen, high holie to drainbow (and with some people those definitions could be close ) but I don’t have to invite some to my home who’s just going to take from my family…that’s not being judgemental, it’s being a realist. I’m not going to invite someone to my home who has proven that they may harm my family either….they could be the hardest worker at the Gathering but if me or the hubby feels like there’s a vibe hanging over the person that we don’t like, then that person isn’t going to get an invite to the hippiestead.

Cinnamon
I would rather be intelligent enough to make a distinction between someone I can feel good about and someone I can’t, than to be spewing hate and negativity just to get a good drama stirred up. Negativity and anger are some of the more unlikable drainbow characteristics, because they not only use, they bring other people down….
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The only thing that really gets to me is when I light a smoke and suddenly there are five people hovering, wanting a cigarette. I don’t mind people sittin around whil i’m chopping veggies but when those same poeple are jonesin for my tobacco and I don’t know when I can go back and get more, it kinda irks me. Being addicted and all. At onegathering i was in a country where smokes were cherap so I decided to buy lots and hand them out around the circle after meals. Eventually people came to me giving me cartons to hand out. I tired of the evil contraversial cigarette faery job pretty quickly and handed off the remaining nicotine to a brother to share.

I wish it didn’t but it bothers me that I can never seem to bring enough tobacco to a gathering. I can’t say no either. It just wouldn’t seem right to say no. In Canada cigarettes cost 12.00 a package and a pouch is about the same.

Poorphucker I seem to recall a post of yours about how people were trying to sell you back Crystals you had liberated from some mine? You don’t like drainbows either-admit it- you may love them but you don’t like them.
"can’t you see that this is what drainbows do… they give wisdom"

I think were kicking a dead horse here…..

Mike…
maybe you’re kicking a dead horse but i’m not

i’m saying there is wisdom within us all
Ohhhhh I get it, theres nothing in this room, Weeeee are the art……… ha ha ha…
kick ass sig pic gyva,,if it wernt for the high tension power lines in the background,,and the always politically incorrect beer can in yer hand…..

Yea, there’s a little piece of "god" in everybody, and we can learn a little something from everybody, even if it is how NOT to act. I cannot imagine a worse nightmare than attending a gathering where EVERYBODY was a drainbow… Or maybe not, because then people would be FORCED to take care of business or they would all starve, freeze, have to quit smoking, or drown in their own trash pile… And MAYBE they would learn some valuable lessons from each other.

I suppose that those who protest the most are pissed because they find themselves lacking and can’t deal with the truth. The others obviously just have not had enough experience with the drainbow concept to be burnt out yet. But never fear, because if you blindly go thru life being totally nonjudgemental and giving everything away to all who have their hands out, you too will eventually figure it out…
Well I do like beers while fishing, and it just so happen the fish bite near these power lines. IF I could tell them to bite a 1/2 mile down the road so my picturs would come out better I would.. ha ha….
nobody appreciates a drain on society, especially one as personal as the rainbow society. You dont like when a guest comes over eats and drinks and smokes until you are out, and then still doesnt leave but whines about the lack of they do nothing to fill?
i can see why it might be hard to appreciate those who are a drain on the system and certainly something that i have done, not appreciated many, but does not appreciating help the problem?

I think alot of rainbow would consider me a drainbow.. for the simple fact that i always wait till no one is around to work/contribute.. few ever see me doing things other than loafing.. Personally that is just how i live.. i want no spotlight or credit for things i do. i would rather someone who cares about that type of thing get all the credit.. Not really on topic here.. but maybe you know some people like me that you consider drainbow to the core.. and they really aren’t.. maybe not..
i’ve been wonderin if people would concider a mad doser a drainbow, if all he did at the whole gathering was dose ppl
and if all the ppl he dosed just sat around laughin at the sky all day, wouldnt that make them temporary drainbows? and the doser would be contributing to the overall drain?
ofcourse ya can say the opposite, that it wouldnt be as magical experience without trippin hippies, so then the dosers doin family a sacred service

just sayin..in alotta cases, apperiences might decieve..
naturally, this thread was an exploration of the reality of the tension that some folks feel about others and so i appreciated what folks put on the table as their feelings and understandings

my final thought on this as has been mentioned often in these pages, is compassion for the problem, not cursing it

thank you
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i had never even heard of a drainbow before but i can see why nobody likes them if this is true…
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i think contributing doses is contributing a hell of alot…and hey, i bet i could do a water run dosed, of course the water might end up at the wrong kitchen(label ure water jugs kitchens!)…or maybe somebody could run rope along the trails and just tie ure tripping hippy onto the line, good way to send messages
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one of my funniest experiences at a rainbow gathering was due to the courtesy of a drainbow… it was a full moon but cloudy night and as i was walking around the trails at night, all the little flowers were glowing along the trail… and i thought, this is so nice someone took the time to paint night glow onto these flowers… only the next day did i realize that no one painted the flowers… chamomile, wild daises, etc and it was only the effect of the moonlight and here a rainbow was getting credit for something he or she never did and that’s so drainbow in my book
and people say drainbows r useless, next time anyone asks me wat a drainbow is good for, im gunna tell them about how they make flowers glow in the dark
*question* if there were no drainbows to speak of.. who would catch that label? and what would they be called then?

smile… while i play my drum..

brainbows….rainbows who spend all of there time sitting around and thinking wat to do and say
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WOW…. this thread is quite the enlightening thread.

I guess rainbow is all about dissing others and pointing out what is wrong with others.

Sure seems like such a welcoming place now a days!

I guess some people have to prove to the world how much better they are than others!

So, what is considered a good day of honest work at a gathering?

An 8 hour shift of walking around, pointing out to others, who is worthless and who is not. Telling others they are not doing their share. Pointing out others flaw MUST BE SOME REALLY HARD WORK FOR SOME OF YOU!

Must get really tiring.

So, a Rainbow farmer, spends 6 months working their ass of at their farm. They grow a whole bunch of veggies for the gathering. Lots of hard work put forth in their agricultural duties. They bring their entire crop to the gathering. After working so hard for 6 months straight. They feel they do indeed need a relaxation. Are they a drainbow because they worked their ass off for 6 months but are relaxing at the gathering?

Someone spends alot of time, money, and effort on growing 5 pounds of kind nugs. He brings then to the gathering and secretly passing out the nuggets so that they can be shared. They decide that they are going to take a break at the gathering. Would they be a drainbow even though they contributed otherwise? Lets say….. 3 grand a pound. That person just kicked down 15,000 dollars, if you want to put a dollar on it.

A person spends 2 days, hauling 1000’s of trash bags out of the gathering in their personal bus at night. Their home. You were on the other side of the gathering and have no clue what the person has been doing and only see them sitting around during the day. Would they be a drainbow since you did not actually see them working with your own eyes?

A brother or sister just spent 2 months working their asses off on seed camp. Now they are ready to relax and enjoy the fruits of the labor. Are they drainbows because you do not see them working because you did not go to seed camp?

What about the brother or sister that comes to the gathering and relax, and then busts out for three months after the gathering is over…. in clean up. You would not be there to see them do what they do best…. so, would they be drainbows to?

A brother or sister works a very hard, physical job, in their non-gathering life. They work more hours than they would like for most of the year with no time for family. But, they sure do get nice paychecks. When the gathering comes and they get their little two week vacation… they go. They are exhausted and need the rest and relaxation. On their way past the magic hat, they secretly gave 10,000 dollars. Would they be a drainbow?

Some brother or sister spend their time running their private vehicle, using it as a shuttle for some assorted purpose. They do not ask for any gas or green energy for gas. They have a night shift… so you never see them working but see them relaxing during the day. Are they drainbows?

Some person hauls wood and water during the night, but you would not notice it. You only see them sitting during the day. Are they drainbow… because you do not know or see what they do contribute?

A lawyer donates unlimited free time for some rainbow folks who are in trouble. The gathering is over but they still have to work around the clock for the next year…. helping people in court. When they are at the gathering … they decide to relax and prepare for the legal stuff awaiting. Would they be a drainbow?

People go out and dumpster dive food for the gatherers every night. You see them doing nothing during the day. Are they drainbow?

Some person digs shitters at night. Of course you would not know that and only see them resting during the day. Are they drainbow?

A whole bunch of people, sitting behind a computer, telling others what IS and what IS NOT rainbow, pointing out why people are trolls and drainbows and coming to conclusions that others are worthless…. are they drainbows?

A sister or a brother walks around all day long, each and every day, passing out tickets good for one free hug. They did not do any physical labor and never have, because they have been passing out hug tickets for 12 years. are they rainbow or drainbow?

A person goes around ever night, without anyone noticing, and puts three peices of wood into the wood pile at every camp. During the day, they sit around smoking pot. Are they a drainbow?

A person spends all night baking bread…. yet you would not know that. Are they a drainbow?

A person drives across country in a bus, hauling supplies, people and other stuff. They pay for all the gas. They drive. They pay for insurance. They help people that are stranded. When they get to the gathering, and are exhausted while their passengers got to relax, and now choose to relax…. are they drainbow?

Some guy, who is accredited with being one of the "starters" of the rainbow society, spends the whole time parading around for cameras and dealing with LEO… trying to find a way to sell out the gathering and get people to now sign a permit. Are they drainbow?

A person spends alot of time and effort and money throughout the year, on getting a rainbow publication out, and is now needing a vacation. You do not see them working. Are they drainbow?

A person goes aorund and fixes others vehicles…. but you do not see that. You just see them always sitting around and puffing…. are they drainbow? Even though they fixed like 30 vehicles that would have cost the owners ALOT of money?

Someone produces lsd and risks thier lives, safety and freedom, on behalf of spreading paper to family. When they are at the gathering, they do not really do anything and just relax after a year of stress. Are they drainbow?

A shaman, speads entheogens around the gathering. People could put a monetary value of 50,000 dollars, on what the shaman gave away. To the shaman, it is not about money. Most entheogens can be grown. Takes time and effort to do so. Alot of the people come and find the shaman and ask for something. Then go off and utilize it. Would the shaman be a drainbow… even though they would be too busy with their duties as a shaman to gather wood for some rainbow that is calling him a drainbow???

If a person has good intentions…. and only intentions… are they drainbow?

A person spends thier time year round, moderating a rainbow web site/forum/etc… They censor people by deleting thier posts and take it upon themselves to decide as an individual… what is rainbow and what is not. Are they a drainbow?

A bunch of people are down the trail, around the curve…. licking the bowel movement tree. They keep it nice and clean for others. Are the drainbows?

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Stay tuned for another worthless post about how to spot a rainbow!

Such as…. when you see someone whining about…

When you see someone complaining about…

When you see someone not wanting to share because…

When you see someone justifying something because…

When you see someone telling others what they must…

… and other assorted goodies.

Am I a drainbow because I sometimes criticize rainbow?

I guess people get bored with pointing out the positive things of rainbow, and feel they must spend their time focusing on what is negative and not rainbow.

It sure shows others just how much more rainbow you are than other people!

WTF? You want some brownie points? Want me to get my 4 yo to make you some construction paper ribbon awards that say you are a true rainbow? You want me to make you some diploma that states you are a rainbow? How about some diplomas that you can go around the gathering and hand out to your friends that you feel meet your rainbow standards!

I think we should start a HIHOLY fund. Then we can go to some trophy store and spend the money on 2 dozen plastic trophies. Every year, at the national, we can have a special council to give out the trophies.

Then, at least some of you, will have a nice shiny trophy, to remind you of how much better you are than others!

That would not work…. we would need a thousand throphies at least!
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Hey Phucker! I love you.

Imma tell ya’ll about a drainbow I met one time. He was a native elder leading a sweat. It was a sadistic sweat. He gathered up the naked sisters and had them say their fathers names in a cirlce, inside the lodge. He kept telling us to leave our emotions inside the sweat. Of course the father thing brought up alot of issues for the womens who cried and wailed. At that time I had not yet met my father, nor did I know his name. When the feather came to me I had to say, "I don’t know."

I was incredibly emotionally distraught after the sweat. I wandered around the gathering tryingto keep it all in and leave it in the sweat on the verge of breakdown until I ran into the man who I’ll call Dave, the one who lead the sweat.

I burst into tears and asked him what to do if I couldn’t leave it in the sweat.

He said, you come talk to me. He then lead me off into the woods where he told me I have special shamanic gifts and asked if I would like to come live on a little island with him and become his apprentice/ wife. He hugged me innapropriately and suggested the tears were for attracting male attention.

Here I was, a broken 20 yr old girl who approached and elder for help only to be given more reasons not to trust men. This guy was in his fifties or older and was supposedly at the gathering in order to teach/heal/guide people.

Last I heard he was at cathedral grove-a tree sit in BC where, btw, alot of teenage runaways seem to end up- leading sweats.

I try not to be one to point fingers but if that guys not a depraived drainbow I don’t know what is. He obviously has alot of healing to do and he sure succeeded in setting my healing back a few notches.

The thing that gets me the most is how many longtime family members hung on this guys every word, doted on him and generally treated him as an elder, when really he was just old.

Sometimes its hard not to judge and sometimes judgement is necessary in order to protect oneself.
really good to know some people understand why putting your brothers and sisters under labels is crappy thing to do.. live and let love.. regardless of what you see, or care to observe in someone else.. its all about making a difference.. do your part and leave the next person be, so they can do theirs.
build your brothers/sisters up, labels were meant for soupcans not people..

Smile… while i play my drum…
Golly! Who’d'a thunk you rainbows were so cliquey?

Seriously, though, I’m planning to attend my first rainbow gathering this summer. (I’ve promised myself the same thing these last three or four summers, but something always got in the way.) Please, someone tell me what I should do to avoid being dismissed as a troll, blissninny, or drainbow. I’d hate having to wait a whole year to dispel whatever bad first impressions I manage to make.
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so ure saying a drainbow is a state of being, that even if u do work, ure essense can b a drain on people…somebody can just all around be negative? help me understand this concept of drainbow earth mother
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one think nice about drainbows is none of them want to be God cuz they know God is just a job
Really? It is no great accomplishment to take what others have made to be given.

It is no big thing to accept or buy or steal a candle. It IS a big thing to make the candle.

You are upside-down.

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Schlüßelberg i agree with that completely…but may i ask what does that have to do with this thread?
nm, i got high, and i get the analogy now…i havent been sleeping too much lately
Ha ha ha…. If Spirit came your way and you sent him our way… we would welcome him with open arms. I have seen that brother during some hard times, and I have seen how much enlightenment through the form of entertainment, he has brought to many of people. I accept him for who he is.

I missed a previous post that said…

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can i suggesst we let this thread die?
molly wanted to stor up a sebate and bring out the negative
why are we feedin into it?
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…and why would you ONLY POINT OUT ME and IGNORE MAKING A COMMENT about the SEVEN OTHER POSTERS that posted and KEPT THIS THREAD GOING TODAY!?

Are you discriminating against me?
the thread is gunna die naturally, wen people stop having things to say about it, except me, i talk whether ive got something to say or not…but if its killed before everyones got wat they gotta say out its gunna cause problems…probably just a new thread about this thread… sometimes i feel like people get carried away and forget sutff cus of there differences, but the similarities im certain im much mor vast…drainbow or not, a drainbow is still a rinbow, i liked this thread, for the most part it was very open and calm and treated as an intellectual forum, but now i think everyones getting carried away, cus were all human beings, were all human beings(for the most part, i think)
i think the thread died after ure first post anyway, poorphucker, or at least i felt it should have, it sounded like an end to me, but i agreed with most of it, and obviously nobody is ever gunna agree on anything
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i heard myspace is gunna b sponsoring nationals next year, and u gotta get a wristband that says ure true rainbow… lets not let it die, lets see where it takes us, ive never even discussed drainbows before, except wen i originally asked, wats a drainbow? and left it at that…im tired of going back to the beginning, i wanna move forward, i may b projecting a bit there, but w/e
soaringeagle, i think anybody that judges all of rainbow by few posts on the net isnt that openminded, and maybe that could change at a gathering but hopefully we can start it here, i hope anyone that has any doubt or opinion about rainbow would share, so we can all see and share our opinions and experiences

Ya, I would hope that newbies would read more than just this one post, and that they would be collectively intelligent enough to figure out that there will always be problems in any society, and the issue of "drainbows" or whatever else one wishes to call them or not call them, is still an issue, none the less. One that people WILL address at one time or another, simply because whether you want to give it a name or not, it can still be a problem. One would hope that those who have behaved in less than exemplary "Rainbow" fashion would be open enough to realize that perhaps they might be doing better than they are and learn some valuable lessons by seeing themselves in all this.
Everyone judges. Unless they’re saints or gods/godesses. It is nearly impossible to not do so at some point or another. One must figure out who they can allow into their lives and who they cannot. One must also figure out that everyone is different, and that even if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you can, under normal circumstances, learn to take them as they are, find those traits that you like, and realize that the person is only capable of as much as they are capable of…. But you cannot expect silk purses out of sows ears so to speak.

But there ARE people who are just plain annoying in their attitudes and manner, their expectation that everything is either a ground score or a handout. Those who take away from the scene rather than add to it or be neutral. The fighters and yellers, the bums, the pushy, the snobs, they all need compassion too, probably more than most, but in the real world, and real human nature in the greatest majority of cases, those bothersome individuals have a way of making themselves less than welcome in any given situation, no matter how spiritual the intent. And so they inherit a nickname, a label (heaven forbid), no different than calling something "purple" or a "book".

I’m certain that in reality, Soaring Eagle was suggesting that things needed to settle down some, because certain peope were taking things far too seriously, and when folks begin to get far too defensive, no one hears a bloody thing. Serious posts designed to piss people off, will ultimately succeed. But what good does it do to take out your hostilities on others AT LENGTH? I vote for some levity! A bit of an open mind, perhaps.

Maybe, just maybe, there are some people on this thread with enough understanding to see things for what they really are…
Dont people realize that in every walk of life there are givers and takers.
At a rainbow gathering you call them drainbows. Anywhere else you’d call them mooches.

They’re the ones who get kicked out of communes because they don’t contribute. When you take them camping they just sit around the campfire while everyone else is gathering more firewood. They’re always smoking someone else’s weed, drinking someone else’s beer and eating someone else’s food. These people constantly have their hand out and act like you owe it to them.

Yes, there are givers and takers in life, but there are also those who let the takers walk all over them, while others stand up to them and make them pull their own weight.
Spirit, haha! Once this year, we put a whole cup of sugar on the bliss rail and moments later Spirit arrived, got some coffee, and then left. A few minutes after that, someone came and asked us for sugar because our cup was empty!

Personally, I think people get so upset with bliss ninnies and drainbows because they don’t do anything, but then expect everything. I can honestly say that for all the herb the kitchen crew smoked in the month I was there, I barely caught a buzz because of the ninnies and drainbows. I was there the second day of seed camp this year and helped dig most of the shitters, I did more water runs than I can count, and I did tons of other things that I am not even going to list off. I did these things every day because I WANTED to not because I expected to get smoked up or whatever. It just really gets on my nerves when people sit there and whine about not getting smoked up or dosed. It especially annoyed me when the people whining were drainbows that sat in our kitchen all day not lifting a finger. I’m trying to not look down on anyone and I love all of my family, but I do think that the people who are busting their humps to make the gathering enjoyable for everyone shouldn’t be missing out on goodies due to intercepting loafs. You can accuse anyone of playing the superior card all you want, but remember that the next time you work the whole gathering without getting so much as a thank you for doing a good job and have drainbows sitting in on all your kitchen smoke sessions disabling you from even getting a head change. I honestly don’t think the kitchen crew ever even had a single smoke out just by themselves. We had ninnies at all hours. The motto is supposed to be: "Everyone does a little, so no one has to do a lot", not, "Everyone does little so a few have to do a lot and still share their luxuries". I had very little tobacco and ended up giving hundreds of cigarettes away. There were people who even took advantage of me and rolled two cigs. Town was 45 miles away and I didn’t have a car. I just feel that people who aren’t helping their brothers and sisters shouldn’t be getting helped themselves. If it were up to drainbows and ninnies, we’d all die of starvation. It has nothing to do with labeling, or having a high nose, it has to do with simple decency. Why should the ants suffer while the grasshoppers play all day? Next gathering I am bringing my own stash and only smoking up the people who are right there working with me!

Sorry if this came off wrong and I hope everyone can relate to my point.
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Standing up to people doesn’t have to be confrontational. Sure there are people who will contribute as little as possible as long as they can get away with it, but most of them will be "happy" to pitch in if they’re asked nicely.

"Hey, I could use some help preparing this stew we’ll be eating tonight."

"I have an extra shovel, could you help me dig a couple shitters?"

"We’re taking up a collection for beer, whatever you can contribute will be appreciated."

Some will have to be asked again and again, but most will finally get the message.
haha dude i just wanted to say i was reading this thread and all the sudden it got really intense
hahahaaa
hahaha, yah, agreed man, a little too intense if u ask me
Well, hey, check this out. I had a Drainbow nightmare last night! In the dream, we had just come off the hill from the pond and there were several hundred folks hanging around in my yard and house, just helping themselves to everything and making themselves quite at home. Total surprise. Most of them were drunk. I got pretty upset finding someone upstairs in all my personal things and I told everybody to leave. They all lookied at me like I was crazy. I tried explaining to them that I was NOT having a party, I had not invited anyone to my home, or advertised any festivals or gatherings, that this was MY house, and MY stuff, but they just acted like a bunch of zombies, staring. I finally ended up having to DRIVE them out of the house like a herd of cows. The yard, and the entire farm was now full of these people. Most were drunk, lots of them were passed out. There were fights going on. One guy who looked like Jerry Garcia had a gun. I tried and tried to get them all to leave, but people just smiled and said, "honey, you must be on drugs"… or "Are you sure you’re alright, you’re not acting right?" Everyone was dumb as mud, nobody got it. They all just thought this was a free for all and everything was at their disposal. Hell, I got a group of them to move about 15 feet, and there was a BODY with a knife sticking out of their chest, but nobody seemed to notice. They were all too fucked up. They were leaving a huge mess everywhere they went, but I kept telling everybody that was why I was not having a big party here, because I did not want to have to spend months cleaning up after them. They just kept staring as if I couldn’t possibly be talking to them, and more just kept coming….

Hey, I’m serious, I really do dream this kind of stuff. Horrible. Somebody get me a glass of water…
Wow. That is really trippy. I think you latched onto something here. Some of those "rainbows" or "hippies" or "drainbows" as you all label them (aren’t labels useful?) might just be lifeblood-sucking zombies in Rainbow clothing (but you can’t tell because they’re dressed just like hippies!). CREEPY This could be the start of a good B movie, hmmmmm.
"Night of the Living Drainbows"
"Dawn of the Drainbows"
"Day of the Drainbows"

Instead of being undead zombies, they’re all fucked up on, oh I don’t know, some brown acid going around?
"Night of the un-greatful Dead". And the slogan is not "loving you" , but "sucking you!"
"dumb dead" the story of what happened to all the weed
hippie politics man they gotta be more intricate and judgemental than anything ive ever become invovled in. this is the way i see it, no matter what wereever ya go who ever youre around theres gonna be 1 if not more folks who take away or DRAIN from the productivity vibe whatever. what can you do? you cant change someone if they dont wanna change they gotta do it. o well we just gotta deal with the bliss bunnies theyll either learn or get too butt hurt to show up in the woods over and over, ive seen some blissninnies turn there act around. i work my ass off and could care less who gets me high or drunk or whatever.when did getting high become all that mattered? thats what i see sometimes if i want weed or booze that bad ill go to fucking town fucking buy it, some hippies just care too much about being high.
And some just care too much about gettin’ drunk… Next time ya see a "bliss bunny" hand ‘em a shovel or a saw and watch what happens.
youre a pretty judgemental one aint ya? sure us southern rainbows like to drink but ever been to the little white shack or the mississippi house? lots more true love there then ive ever seen probally because everyones more into having a good time instaed of talking about whats wrong with every body all the time, as i have see in theese more arrogant hi holy hippie types. just the way i see things im not trying to insult or judge anyone for there beleifs but if someones wishes to drink, i think a true rainbow would love them for being themselves and being happy
Hey, dude! Yer handle, yer signature, yer attitude, all say ya got issues. Drink till ya puke, I could care less. But there’s lots of folks who ain’t into it. Don’t make ‘em bad people at all. Just people that ain’t into it. And if ya took a vote, ya’d find the majority of rainbows don’t want to deal with a bunch of drinkin’ at rainbow. Nor maybe anywhere else. If I ain’t into violence, I don’t want a bunch of folks fightin’ around me. If I ain’t into killin’ I won’t go to war. If I ain’t into drunk parties, I go to rainbow instead, and stay the hell away from A-camp.

Last rainbow gathering I was at, circumstances WAY beyond my control caused me to have to camp with a bunch of drinkers. Nice enough folks, most of ‘em, (some of ‘em), and I made the best of it, but it pretty much ruined the gathering for me, compared to how it shoulda been. Felt like I was livin’ on the wrong side of the tracks… Gave me nightmares actually. I always saw Rainbow as being an ESCAPE from the daily grind! I would have had much more fun if I woulda stayed home. Actually, if I wanted to hang with a bunch of drinkers, I coulda saved myself all the trouble and STAYED home and had a party instead…
yeah i got issues, issues with poeple hating us for who we are sick and tired of the hate. weres the love? huh? i got issues with stereo typing and issues with people trying to tell me what to do the the national fucking forrest. so yeah i got issues
earthmother,, i gotta call ya out..

yer the one that walked from one end of nationals to the other with yer shit faced fucked up old man,,with 16 ouncers in all his pockets..

an dont say he didnt,he had 3 empties when he hit our camp,an 2 full ones…

so its ok fer yer old man to stroll the trails suckin beers down,,but god forbid a a camper come an speak his peace ??

i dont know why ya have become so high holy over drinking,,oh wait yes i do,,i read your posts..

just cause yer old man an his friends cant handle there alchohol,,dont meen noone can..

love n light
Hey Hippiebilly, Fuck You In The Heart Man. Thats Green Circus Kitchen Talk For ‘lovin Ya’
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A drainbow by any other name is a freeloader
make em work every now and then, get them doing useful stuff like
painting some doors then they go away and leave ya alone
true story: a kitchen i willnot name was up at nederland mile maker 40 after nationals this year, they had gear and food, but for some reason me and a group of a few other folks, who had nothing to do with the kitchen, were the ones who actually got off their asses and cooked while they had a crew that sat around all day. but when some one with weed showed up they were on their feet claimng they were kitchen crew and had been working and needed the buz, whats that all about?
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Sure, have a drink, have a toke, whatever, but make a point to contribute to the group you find yourself in. If you don’t, people might not say anything but that doesn’t mean they don’t notice. A real friend is someone who remembers to return the favors you do.
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