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Nobody is perfect, and nobody comes to a rainbow gathering because they are whole and happy in babylon. Those "gutterpunks" are just as much family as anyone. Osama binladen is just as much family as anyone. People are people, and if you want to judge, judge. If my family is not good enough for you, then be alone. If you want to make changes, lead by example. Don’t run away crying because your hippy dippy ideals aren’t being met by people you’ve never met. Rainbow family or not, you are NO BETTER. Rainbow family or not, what you or you or you or I beleive may not be right. Rainbow family or not, things are never perfect…except for imperfection. Who are you, with your birkenstocks and nalgenes and fancy new tents? Who are you with your jobs and houses and babylonian ways, paying taxes and buying food and showering? No different then me with my torn up shoes, and dumpstered food, and cupped hands for dining wear. Who are you, who comes to a gathering during your week off of work? No different then me, who goes to babylon on my "week off." No better, no worse, no different. Whether you like it or not, we are it. We are what "you" have to live with. If you are so sure we are wrong, teach us. Don’t run away like those cowardly cops, afraid of us. There is no governing in rainbow, so why is what you think right, and what I think wrong? What happened to just different? Label yourself, if you wish, but keep your words off of my soul and if you must, scatter like chickens, and then cry when things aren’t perfect to what you want. That’s how things get done, no? Bury your shit. Bury your dog shit, and for the love of God, BURY YOUR BULLSHIT. Or don’t. I’m just your sister, and It’s up to you. 
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Sang it sistah!
I do wish to sing to you of cops however. They are armed and dangerous. Cops acting from a place of fear is what we ~don’t~ want.
Have you ever wondered why certain leos have attached themselves to Rainbow~ It’s no mistake. It’s their sacred path. There are varying degrees of awareness about that among them.
I’m an old schooler who had no use for cops. I’ve seen some ugly things, sister. But I’ve come ’round to thinking of them as brothers and sisters with guns, on their sacred path, with varying degrees of truth, which they act upon.
I act upon my truth and you act upon yours. And one day in the woods or in this forum, some truth of mine may become yours. Some truth of yours may become mine.
I have a greenlight to peacekeep, and that certainly means between cops and family. Whosoever would war against injustice: cops, government, or parents, should arm themselves with the most powerful tools: Satyagraha : Non-violent resistance. And love. Most important. 
When Jesus said "Love your enemy" he was giving us a very powerful secret weapon.
I used to think he was a madman, though. Giving me impossible tasks to make me crazy. ..
Brothers and sisters they are, if you were to see me, clad in dirt and dreadlocks, pulling a can of mase on an innocent sister and her dog, I would be stopped. If I were seen walking down main trail with a keg, or a bottle of booze, I would be spoken to. If I put a gun in the face of an innocent family member…a mother, her child, and elder, a gutter punk…there would be action taken as rebuttle to my action. Cops this cops that, they are brothers and sisters, you are right. They are on a path, you are right, but they can put us in jain, kill us with no consiquense, brutally beat us. Those are scary things. That does not mean I will to abandon my values for them. (My values being what I learned from the prophecy and my predecesors in rainbow land.) For you it may. I don’t know. For me, loving my enemy is not the seemingly impossible task. That would be loving myself and my family enough to stand by what I beleive is right for them…even if a scawy scawy cop wif a gun is tewwing me dat i should sign his wittle peice of papew. That’s what it’s all about…that paper. The funny thing is, if we have no leaders, who’s to say who should take responsibility for everyone as a whole? Not me. Not the scary cops. Not that peice of paper.
Sara, I DO agree with you, but like in other threads there was a concern about the large amount of taking and never giving. I happen to work in Babylon because I choose to go to college and the only way to afford that is to have some what of a job. I don’t mind giving things to people, actually I LOVE giving what I have. I actually donated food to "Shut up and eat it." It wasn’t much, but it was what I had. I made a lot of people happy by just giving them hemp necklaces. I gave away more than I took. I went to trade circle to TRADE and i got so many people bugging me to just give them things. The one thing that REALLY mad me mad was the constant asking for cigs. I don’t smoke at all. I would tell people that I did not smoke and they would follow me or ask me again 5 minutes later. It was like I had to prove to some people that I don’t smoke. Don’t get me wrong, I had an AMAZING time at the rainbow gathering, but I think people are confused with the whole trading thing. There were many many brothers and sisters who tried to trade me for basic things and I felt like were a nessesity and there was no need to make a trade.
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I understand the idea of council and consensious, but just because we come to a consenesious does not mean that any one person is right. Who are you to say who is schwag and who is not? And about the giving/taking thing, the reason I brought up having a job and all that was to prove that its no different or better or worse…I was not bashing anyones way of life, just comparing. You’re right, rainbow raps should be read, but instead our amazing "high holys" and "elders just bitch at us to cover our shit and make 3 spirals for oming…they should be reading these raps then. I have read the raps, I live this way of life. Some people may not even know they exist.
we here at the farm love you sarah..
its sad so many live the rainbow way for a week outta the year,,then return to babylon,,..
they dont understand what it is to live it 365 days a year..
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What’s so gosh darn wrong with work anyway? Unless you live 100%, and I mean ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, off of the land, then you "work" for Babylon in one way or another. Pay taxes for the property your commune is situated on? Babylon. Did you grow the hemp you’re using to make the jewelry that you’re bartering with at trade circle, or did you buy it somewhere? Babylon. Whether you buy the seeds in Babylon for your garden or you visit the produce section at the local grocery, you’re still supporting Babylon to some degree. I think it far more important to try to support the smaller businesses in Babylon, the conscientious ones, and to stay away from the mega multinational corporations.
Rainbow is a state of mind that you can be in wherever you are, digging a pit at your excavation job, running reports on your computer at the office, or dancing barefoot in a stream in the middle of the forest.
Hey man! I’m drinking that water downstream! Go dance in the meadow!
Everything goes except stepping on toes!
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using a computer? BABYlon… so iff’n ya need to be pure ah all (as one of our cyber elders here would say) better log off……
rainbow is many states of mind..
unless ya lived them all,, ya have no right to complain about any of them..
but thats just another worthless opinion from a uneducated hippie..
luv n light
You are only participating in Babylon if you give in to the schist ways of Babylon
If you live with Rainbow Spirit in your heart & in your ways then you aren’t part of Babylon, no matter where you are
But that’s just our opinion
I was not bashing anyones way of life…all i was saying is that we are all equal no matter what. what I said about working and having jobs and all of that…was just a comparison.
Hello family.. I want to start out by saying that my 10 days at the Colo. National gathering was my first and was magic. Overwhelming love, beauty, kindness, diversity. To try to describe my experience would take up this entire entry. Thank you all for that.. it gave me hope for humanity and filled my spirit. I found people like me that believe in peace and love and actually show it without being a holy roller. I was never a holy roller but discovered I was a member of a tribe I didn’t know was out there. A member of a family who would love me "As I was" and I could do the same. It changed my life.
I knew going in that I wasn’t going to exactly "blend". Never have really, but I knew why I was there, what was in my heart and hoped that I would be loved for who I was and not for my shoes. I did have a pair of Birkenstocks on. I got them at the Goodwil for $5.99, my tent was $7.99 and I shared it with a girl I meet on the trail. I was a little too clean, I was told and got what I called .. people looking at me sideways. My heart stayed pure and the magic was everywhere. Many people grew because I was there and I grew because they were there. My point is that… I meet the type of people who you spoke of .. But I was the IMAGE of the person you spoke of because I looked different with my clothes. I am a member with my beliefs, my passion , my love, my caring, sharing, peace but am often judged as well.. Labeled and targeted. I want to say that if we are ever to achieve peace,.. we truly have to welcome all and show them love at it’s best. Fear creates Babylon. If they come out for the week,,,, there is hope for them. Otherwise they may never be reached. Show them the love you wish to receive and peace that you want for the world. Babylon dosn’t teach this and if we don’t they will not know it. You must see that they live within Fear … of everything… They truly envy your freedom but don’t understand your lack of fear. I am speaking of the extreme labelers and judgers of the world as I know who it is that she speaks of. They do it to all of us… not just you.
Fear stopped me from going downtown to share my cell phone with people who might want to use it to call someone they love. My motivation: Just thought people might like to call somebody. Fear: people would judge me and think I was some holy roller or had some other motivation other than Love.
I want to go down to the local pot lucks but am afraid that I might not be wearing the right clothes or I don’t know any vegatarian dishes. Fear creates babylon. We all just want to be and we all need to grow. Give everyone a chance to be loved for who they are and give them a chance to love you for who you are. They may not be "there" but many of them love you for who you are and aren’t what we appear on the outside.
Love you family and I find great comfort in the love and hope that I have now. Peace and Love to you all..
Crazy White Lady…. IE: Sunshine
Sunshine !!!!!
You said it all my dear
I am guilty of such thoughts an keeps me from being ‘free’
Love you….. for pouring out your beautiful ‘heartsong’
May that ’sun’ contine within ….. for you do ‘Shine’
Shine on Sunshine !
Do I hear ‘drums’
You bet I do…..
Ahh the drums… More of that rainbow magic that you would mention them as you did. I kept telling everyone that they would laugh all the way through the forest if they followed the signs. People just where they "should" be, phrases, lights going out, elders appearing and dissappearing around the fire, everything as it should be you know? I learned that there are alot of different words for what I already do and how I see and use energy. (wasnt even doing any of that crazy stuff.. never needed too) You must know the lure of the drum. 
I slept within range of several… all at the perfect distance. The drum circles were so……… freeing, passionate, primative, and (speechless.. moving on)..
I went to lava hot springs on the way out and found a great little local shop with drums.. I tried to work a trade.. ) but instead, he gave me a great deal. I have been playing it since then and although I play guitar and flute.. many moons ago.. I was never a drummer. I am now@! 25 years of playing the steering wheel and a beat that freeeeee’s my inner beat …. heartsong…. I am "afraid" to go where some men/women have gone before … when they enter that drum zone/dancing zone. I know just from letting my spirit dance as much as I dared. and feeling the energy that was created and now having the beat of the drum to join in the circle… Strange things might happen to the crazy white lady….
I don’t know how you knew about the drum thing…. but I am so Lovin You and your magic sister…… and Thank You.
Sunshine
Talking = with mouths
Drummin= with hands
Talkin drums= with spirit
luvin’ ya sister as well 
I think that there is very important work to be done in Babylon. Many people that need help. Should I turn my back on them? I work at a garden center and sell trees to re forest the land. I also teach people about organic vegetable gardening. I think these are important things, and find my work very rewarding.
I think I can do more good standing up and conversing. the people of babylon and challenging them with my ideas than I ever could running from babylon and being afraid, and hiding out in the woods.
I have been birthed and raised in Nimbin, Australia till the age of 20. As I read through the posts, I can’t help but have a little laugh. With due respect to those concerned - whom I beleive are truthful in what they say - I beleive that you do need to keep the idea, but move with the times. Whilst the "feel" remains the same, the times have changed, and nothing comes from living in yrs gone by - consider them great memories/stories passed on by those a little older. At the time I left tuntable (behind Nimbin) the only store we had for a huge distance was a true barter store. However, huge amounts of land was been unknowingly "sold out". Unless you can pull your beleifs into "present times" - we run a losing battle. Unfortunately, good intentions don’t mean anything in todays times. You need money, contacts and education to enforce our beleifs with effect. Turning a blind eye, or refusing to succumb to this reality, really does no help.
Of real concern to myself, is the lack of time/effort people put into environmental issues. Things are most definitely not as bleak as we are lead to beleive by our governments - however, I’m constantly in awe by the amount of people who are automaticlly "assuming" things based upon what media tells us.
Many environmental ‘facts’ are lies, exaggerations and unscientific claims to manipulate the masses in the classic Hegelian Dialectic: create the problem, create opposition to the problem, then present your own predetermined solution. Global warming is a perfect example.
Even if earth’s temperature has increased slightly, the increase is well within the natural range of known temperature variation over the last several thousand years years. Indeed, the earth experienced greater warming between the 10th and 15th centuries — a time when vineyards thrived in England and Vikings colonised Greenland and built settlements in Canada.
When was the last time you heard this? Probably not often/never. Please, take the time to do you own research into issues - and make your own wise decisions.
These threads are like twisted little rivers… agenda’s and passions and points of view. I have always believed that we need them all to create awarness and balance.
I got a little hung up on the whole.. Nothing comes from living in yrs. gone by and they should be viewed as, great memories/stories passed on by those a little older. Has it really changed or is that why we are all becoming more frustrated? History repeats itself and those Memories and stories came at high cost for many and should be valued, respected and learned from. 
You can never Enforce your beliefs with all the money, education or contacts. There is no mission to Enforce anything.
Will we always be reinventing the wheel?
Treat all with dignity and respect.. Peace to all yall….
Sunshine
OK… Maybe with all the money
The title off this post is a set up. "Lets bitch about nationals" and then the author of the post start off accusing all of us that we expect perfection and wholeness and happiness and a bunch of other generalizations and assumptions. And then tells us to effectively to shut the fuck up (bury your bullshit)
Not the way to facilitate good communication.
I for one will not shut the fuck up and eat your bullshit. I’ve noticed a new things that we didn’t like. And I’m a Witness, that’s all.
The annoying ~ Nick at night holler! I would have to say, that it’s a base mentality. I would compare it to 2nd hand smoke and those loud base speakers the low-riders. It’s an invader.
THAT was very *babylon* the "Nick at night" thing. I don’t appreciate someone asking me to pollute myself and put my life in jeopardy. It was also so very unconscious to expose the children to the 2nd hand smoke. It’s like living with a tumor- you want to get rid of it
Princess Sara, I love you Sister and you need to get off my back. I’m certainly not on yours, I never said a thing when I was there, just packed up and went home.
"Hippy Dippy Ideals""Not good enough, then be alone" ~~get real. Not a rainbow-y saying, but then the rainbow is growing pale and is soon to be rather transparent before it disappears into oblivion. By the lack of love it seems.
I didn’t run away, I left because I was worn out from being sucked dry by a professional vampire (not you, but a long time attendee that works in crystal kitchen), and the lack of food and water, and a baby who was very uncomfortable because he got chewed up by the mosquitoes.
Some of us are adults with dependents and have responsibilities and in reality have worked so hard our hands have bled, our feet have blistered and we’ve developed chronic illnesses to pay those fucking taxes that support our national forests. If I had a choice (and don’t get me wrong, I am active in the politics too) none of my taxes would be used for the blood oil. These are not excuses, these are realities.
I recieved 1/2 a scoop of some sort of hotdog creation for my baby and I to share. Thank you for that, and thank you for bus and everyone that cooked and who was hauled in by dinosaur-pee. You bury your bullshit and stop name calling and stop labeling.
Your soapbox righteousness is typical of your cognitive-age and development, been there and done that. Lived on the streets myself, and so has my husband.
The tone of your tirade alienates and hardens hearts, and doesn’t help at all.
Stop assuming you know me because you never met me, and would most likely judge me. Who are you to judge?
We also hauled over a thousand pounds food to give to main supply. We had to drive out to fucking oklahoma and haul this old trailer full donated and collected food back to Colorado and then up to Nationals.
And if you were at Spring Council, maybe you remember a Brother asking for help to fix his brake, like asap because his wife was having contractions and she was wanting to give birth at the Nationals?
It was my husband that spoke up in Circle and drove out to *babylon* on a sunday to find the part, & ended up going even further than Steamboat and drove onto Craig and bought the part and fixed it and never asked for any compensation. No worries, no hassle.
Speaking of Spring Council… what kind of lie is that? Holding camp really, my husband and I went to every council hosted by the Colorado Family and there myth of consensus never happened. Circle happened and we were *announced to* by Rob where the National site was going to be. He personally told me why he picked that site: to stick it to the FS because it’s going to be a clear cut.
Ya’ll served meat in Main Circle too. But the fried chocolate was nice. Bad for the diabetics, but very thoughtful.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
The only true way to change the system is to work inside of it.
We have to get our shit together if we are all to walk out of the woods together. The White Bull Buffalo has been born.
How are you guys on the internet but not in babylon?
lol. sorry but i think thats alittle funny.
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I know nothing is perfect, but I was somewhat taken aback at the amount of authoritarianism present at the Rainbow Gathering, and have noticed many young people rebelling against it. Too many heil holys, I say. I suppose some (SOME) of it is necessary, but it makes you think. It also shows you how difficult it really is to find "utopia". Not trying to be negative, just trying to promote some self-reflection.
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The rainbow gathering saved my life and nearly destroyed it.
Free choice and all that.
Thanks to the Rainbow I met a women named Cathy P (from MD, a friend of moondancer)
who turned me onto 12 steps, thus ending a decades long spiral into drugs &
alcohol.
I no longer "look" like a rainbow brother, I have short hair and a job.
I no longer can smoke weed or nicotine or drink or drop acid
…Oh I can if I want to, I just know that it’s not my spiritual path.
So I show up (at a regional) and get accused of being a cop!
I’m not a cop, but big deal! how will you turn a cop into someone who loves peace? will yelling "pig" really convince him?
Perhaps he just saved some children from a murderer, perhaps he just prevented a rape…but to the young sister I smiled at, every white guy with short hair is a pig….
I still do not judge folks by looks, can’t you?
I get the same looks, although my hair is long, I wear a hat and its the lack of hemp jewerly tye dye t-shirts and my clean appearence.. I tottaly understand the looks, its pretty lame how the most loving folks are the most judgemental by apperance. I still love a gathering though despite the looks I get, hell at night around main fire circle, we all look the same with that orangy glow on our faces
Clean doesnt always equal cop but I guess if ya got a vial of doses you gotta keep your guard up… in a way I understand… but then all they gotta do is put a undercover more hip looking cop in the mix… fuck I dunno… I smile at everyone…
Mike…
Rainbow ‘is’ what Rainbow ‘does’ so to speak
I too judge at first glance
Do they have long hair
Are they wearing hemp & tie-dyes
Am I showing my ‘colors’
Hmmm
But yup when ya look within
Can you see?
Bring forth the ‘luv’
Yeh still slight doubt
More ya look within
Less doubt it seems
Or is there?
So is in the ‘eyes’
Of the one lQQkin?
We see what we want to believe
Or do we?
Hmmm
Our choice to choose
‘wink’s
‘hugs’
luvin ya
Hey Karma,
What regional was that? I know the feeling. I too have been judged by my appearance, and when I was at nationals I swear people thought that I was a cop. Maybe I’m just overly sensitive to it….Having been busted, and been around others who have, going back nearly 30 years, I can tell you that snitches hardly ever look like cops in my experience, unless the cops are really stupid (certainly possible). Do you think they’re going to send a narc that looks like a cop? Sad to say, but it’s usually someone that doesnt look the part who’ll get you busted (ie. looks like a hippie or stoner), and maybe someone you’ve known and trusted for a long time. People can easily fall victim to cop tactics, and will turn on their friends when they’re facing jail…….Take care, and please remember to challenge authority, no matter the source. Peace.