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Ok , I went to the gathering and my husband that was supposed to pick me up never did, He left me stranded in colorado and when i got back to tulsa last night i found out that he got a protective order against me saying that i cant come near my kids til the 17th when i go to court over it. He tried to say that he didnt know where i was for a month and all this other shit. anyone have any legal advice, luvin you
omg! what a douche! first off chevy, one of your kids is not his biological child,right? so infact, he could get charged with kidnapping. I’m going to pm you my cell number because I don’t know if you still have it, but I’m here for you if you need someone to talk to. After your court date you sould go as far away from Tulsa as you can. Maybe PA? We love you up here! In PA it is VERY hard for the father to gain 100% costedity(sp?) of their children, unless they can prove that the mother is using drugs or is beating the children. I have no clue if this is the same in OK, but I sure as hell hope so. He can not hold your one daughter away from you! That is kidnapping! I would report him to the police asap! I wish you the bestest of luck hun! You will get your children back! Remember you can call me any time!

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i’m sorry. i’m sending you good energy and hoping everything will turn out ok.
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i was only going for a week, he was supposed to pick me up . but he left me stranded and then it took me longer to get home,, I didnt leave my kids for a month ,,, so go the fuck on ,
Its ok, you dont need to explaine..we who are tuned in get where your coming from.
Your husband sounds like a real douche bag jerk. I suggest you get a lawyer if you haven’t already. People who use the kids as weapons…well I have zero respect for them. There are some of us who care!
Thanks you guys,, knowing theres peopel that care makes me feel better,,,luv’n u
How could someone do such a thing??
Well, nevermind, he obviously has. Don’t worry too much. You’ll get your babies back. No court could give custody to someone who acts so irrationally, especially where children are involved…
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so dylan sis. whats tha world. what did thay sey in court.

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Aw honey I’m soooo sorry. *hugs* I can’t imagine what you must be gowing through. Prayers your way sis.
Smile, breathe and go slowly. Powerful lesson is being presented to you with this one precious Dylanchick. You need to stay as grounded as you can.. Peace&Love Paul
i definitely think the husband is in the wrong …….. sending you rays of sunshine!
They’re your children… and if one is not his, he has no right to them. I also say call the police. If he left you stranded then it’s his fault that you aren’t with your children. I think that’s bullshit. Do you have any idea why he would do that? But it’s none of my business, so nevermind. Hope everything is okay…
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Don’t go to court until the 24th but i’ll let ya guys know what happens,, I called Legal aide today to see if i could get a lawyer, and they told me that my husband already called them and has a lawyer through them so it would be a conflict of interest for them to help me so I cant get a lawyer now,, still hoping taht the court drops the order of protection on thursday so i can see my babies,, this is gonna be really rough if my husband doesnt compromise about the kids,
Dylanchick

Keep your chin up and the ‘luvin’ in your heart
You’ll be okay

(((((Rainbow Hug)))))
You can’t get a lawyer at all?

I’m sure you won’t need one though … it’s pretty obvious what happened, and who is at fault. Just have patiance and confidence. You’ll get your babies back.

Love and light to you sister.
Thanks veggie,, i hope so,, the day after tomorrows the court day,, crossing fingers and toes i get my kids then
Good luck chevy dear!!! You’ll be able to hug your children again! I think he could actually be arrested for holding your oldest girl away from you since she is not his child. <hugs>
I strongly urge you to get a lawyer, regardless of what it takes. If he has one and you don’t, well, I don’t think you have a flying chance in hell. There is no justice in the system anymore. I’ve sat in court more than a few times, and every time I’ve ever been in a courtroom- without exception- I’ve seen outrageously unfair bullshit from judges.

If you simply hate lawyers, remember this: judges are lawyers and politicians.
i can speak from experiance,, if you walk into that courtroom without a lawyer social services are going to railroad you into a situation that it will take you at least a year to where you will even be able to see yer kids unsupervised..

youve already been found to have abandoned yer kids,, that is to say he has already sat with defacs and done his dirty deed..

if you walk into that courtroom without a lawyer,, you will be humiliated..

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trust me…

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So right Sunlion

Sad as it seems

There are avocates that are presently lawyers all over US
I had the pleasure of bumping into one in MO on my way home
To my surprize
They also help those who are in fianancial situations
Many specialized in ’social services’ ya know the ‘welfare cases’

Too bad folks don’t hear about this before they walk into court room
Or agree with parties involved without understanding their own rights beforhand

Remember this…not all lawyers (avocates) advertise ‘winks’
And their out there and in these caring circles as I speak

(((((Rainbow Hugs)))))
the court day is tommorow ………… i hope you get your babies back!
sending you love and rainbows .. your husband is completely wrong i cant believe that someone would do that to you…. i hope all goes well …… thoose babies need to be back into the arms of their mama!
love and rainbow kisses!
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that’s realy a problem. I give you much love and all the best. You’re husband isn’t nice for you 0,0…
Ok,,, Just got out of court and I can only see my kids on supervised visitations while his father is watching me and he isnt there,,, The judge is letting him keep both kids,, even the one thats not his cuz shes enrolled in school and im on the damn streets because of this shit,, In a month the divorce proceedings will start and we’ll be able to figure out whats going on but this legal system is messed up to let this happen,, And Im supposed to have a lawyer by then,, with no money that’s gonna be fun ,, wish me luck guys,, Love ya’ll
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you dont understand how family court works..

there is a possibility the father of the one child could get custody,but shes already fucked,,,

she obviously is already on defacs shit list,,an they dont care..

she will be required to take all kinds of classes,probably summit to random drug tests etc. etc. before she is allowed unsupervised visits..

sad but true.

her only hope is to have a kick ass lawyer and a lot of dirt on her soon to be ex..
The visists are only for a month until the divorce starts and then theyre gonna set me and my husband down and try to work out a childcare plan,,, I get to see them today which is good,,, but giving them back is gonna break my heart,, I’m gonna lose it. and Hey bumble,,, pm me your email adress,,, Luvn you guys,,
Ok here is usually the program:

First on list…said children
…..In best interests of said children…
Housing, food, clothing, etc
Financial support an so forth

Usually in cases like yours….
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You will have to get employment
In meantime a place to live for yourself
You may have to pay support for said children (temp)
Attend visitations and other arrangements
Maybe other appts as well, for both parents like ‘mental health’
parental classes…etc

Visitation especially observance ones….are stressful in some ways..
But keep with the flow…..play…luv….
Learn an obey the regulations…..
Also, careful not to make any remarks regarding other said parent
around the children

Then you (if separate) look into housing for said children if your going for
custody later
Usually follows like in ‘tempary custody’

Main thing is to try to provide whats in the best ‘interests’ for said children
Which ever parent puts in their best foot forward in working with the ‘program’
is the one their going to consider the most.

Remember , also its not the best job/ house that is in best interests of said children
It’s about involvement and taking those steps forward an working within the system
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To insure the childrens safety is the ‘courts’ job

If there are said problems with other spouse they may consider another family member or temporary placement for said children …while in meantime.. both parents getting involved and solutions met

Ok I hope I didn’t babble on too much……..

My dear…..think like this …….I am taking these steps to better myself….so I may be a better parent an work on being a good provider (which isn’t always money)

Always remember….your working on You….for Them (children)

This is the attitude the ‘courts systems’ are looking for

You’ve already begun taking those steps

(((((Rainbow Hugs)))))
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Hope things are better for you sister…. Caught up in the web of the system myself, It helps me to play my drum, meditate, focus on the love. I was at the gathering for 10 days and can take my mind back to my wonderful moment by moment journey. Feel that love as you continue to work through this time, feel your spirit and fill your spirit. Lov’n U
good news!! I still dont have my kids,, but im now in north dakota with my friend pigtails mom and her boyfriend,, His mom s boyfriend is the son of wyoming casing,, a billion dollar oil company, Tails got offered a job starting out at 17.00 an hour,, we’ve got ahouse to take my kids to, a school next door, and soon when he starts working we’ll have the funds for a good lawyer, adn anything else we need, hell be bringing home 3000 every two weeks. Normally id say the oil company is evil , but dont hate me for having him work there you guys cuz I REALLy need the money for my babies. I think the court will be happy with me for getting all this done in a month,
3000 every 2 weeks at 17 a hour??

so hes going to be working 90 hours a week and getting paid cash??

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or is your math fucked up???
I’m glad everything is coming together nicely for you! sending ya positive energies and bundles of hugs!
nah,,I had the wrong amount he was getting paid,, it’s 3000 every two weeks,, but they give him 50 hour weeks,,,and he gets paid extra for certain shit he’ll be doing,, that just came out all wrong,, I got confused,,,my bad,, but ya I can see how that’d make ya go """ is this chick retarded or what?""
$17 per hour = $1360 per 2 40 hour weeks before uncle scam. Or, about $1050 after taxes, every 2 weeks. Add 10 hours per week, at $25.50 (time and a half), and every 2 weeks after taxes the check would be about $1350 (overtime causes higher taxes).
One would need to make $4800 every 2 weeks before taxes (nice tax bracket huh?), in order to bring home $3000 every 2 weeks. In other words, one would need to be paid $60 per hour, if one was only working 40 hours. Since the plan is to work 50 hours per week, one would need to be earning $45 per hour and be paid over time for the other 10 hours per week.
As always, I am a bastion of useless knowledge
Congratulations on the good news. If you take $500 to a lawyer they will be bale to get the ball rolling and you can pay the remainder prior to the court date.
On another note: is your soon to be X and your kids in the same state as you? If not this might present further issues. A judge will be less willing to give you the time that you are hoping for if you don’t live in the same state as them, especially since they are in school. GET THAT LAWYER!

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