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Peace be with you Sister, but please do not rush to such broad generalizations. I fully enjoy a nice craft-brewed beer or some fine wine, and have never had any Jekyll-and-Hyde turnabouts as would be implicit in your post. I have always abstained while inside the gathering, as a matter of "fasting" as a platform for deeper spiritual experiences. However, I felt compelled to critique your embrace of such an extremist viewpoint. The best personal example I can share are some brothers who were militant straight-edgers back in my skate days. They used to preach at us non-stop about the wicked ways of alcohol much as your quoted source does(when we’d simply be having a few beers, NOT going blotto) ; several of them are now dead from heroin overdoses. Meanwhile, those who they preached to are still just having the recreational few beers or glasses of wine, never having gone to extremes. When you play with extremes in any direction, you swing HARD the other way when you finally do. Moderation is the key to success in life, in all matters. Namaste.
Again, I agree with malakala. I love beer. I love hanging out at brewaries and drinking microbrews in comradarie with others. Does that make me evil? No. Do I get absurdly drunk? No. Am I addicted? No. Even if addiction runs in my family. I enjoy the TASTE…not the feeling I get from drinking it.

I have no problems with A-campers, personally. Hell, they’re always the first to welcome us in. They, just like everyone else are a part of our family. Are they rough around the edges? Of course…but that doesn’t make them bad people. I’ve seen hard drugs at gatherings…At least A-campers are in their own camp…these hard drugs can be found everywhere…infiltrating everything. Alcohol is only a small part of the family’s problems. We have a lot more demons to slay. Alcohol is certainly not the largest problem we have.
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one things fer sure,, alchohol has defintly caused me to not give a shit about reading that essay..

ah the evil A camp,…
an those that HATE them…
i just wonder what camp the acceptance is more flowing???

luv n light
you know what I saw many tweakers at the gathering, so what’s worst alcohol or meth?
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Drinking a beer is one thing….having something ruin your life is another….and you cant blame the vice for the folly….its up to you.

Beer…coke…crack…pot….shoes…all can be done in excess…
we don’t even drink & we can’t hang with the extreemism in Kara’s post. we love our A-camp bros & sises & we wouldn’t think of having them ‘cut off’ from the church; heck a lot of those A-campers come spend a sober day at our kitchen & all our regular crew are A-campers who like to spend the Gathering dry.

Sadness to Kara for not being able to see that the Healing comes from Loving folks for who they are…………………..Through Love All Things Are Possible………………
its too bad that i feel so criticised because i love beer. its no harm to me. some have pot, i have beer. same thing. i realize there are about 1 in 10 folks who get way out of hand with their relationship with alcohol. but the fact is, if your not a violent person, alcohol does not make you violent. if it does, you obviouly have some repressed violent tendancies and it is not the alcohol’s fault, it is yours.
but let me just say alocohol and a-camp are two different entities. i drink every day, but i still stay away from a-camp.
…if that makes sense.
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