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does anyone know what the council decided on for sites for next year?
dont think they have yet or at least i havent heard
what i heard discussed though was washington or i think new mexico again/..both would be sweet but the east is more in desperate need, i have been hopin for new england for last few years, lotsa ppl been talkin vermount ever since utah i guess, but those arent really folks who bother with vission council.
i guess my answer is then that i have no answer..lol at least not yet

there were a lot of hopes for New Mexico and some folks expressed this but I heard a fairly solid rumor that it will be Wyoming next year…
what are u talking about needs to be west coast.. cali was west utah west its been west 3 outta 4 times since..hmm how long now?
its suposed to be east 1 year west the next to make it ez on every1, but more often then not it ends up west.. 80% of the east coast family is falling apart because of this..potlucks are dwindling in size, ppl are becomming disconnected
and east coast family is having as harder & harder time makin that long haul every year while west coast folks complain if its 3 states away
in all fairness the next 3 should be eastern
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i doubt it’ll be new mexico that gathering was to close lately. also there is now going to be a regional in a couple of weeks. i heard washington. you would think they would have decided on the 7th like they were suppose to.

on another note they are suppose to do a east coast gathering after two west/middle coast gatherings
i actually talked to a scouting brother while in Arkansas about why there hasn’t been a gathering in the NE in a while and he simply said that there isn’t a national forest that would hold a gathering, but i disagreed with him. The location this year was pretty bad in respect to the fact that there was not a good spot for main circle. So if it’s the fact that there are no locations to hold a meadow area, then why was Arkansas picked this year? As Soaringeagle said, the NE phamily is getting weaker because it is harder for us to make it out to the other side of the country.
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wanderimngturnup i dont know what year the concensus was to move east 1 year west the other i just know thats been a longstanding thing, which has been ignored in past years
i also disagree about lack of suitable sites & think several of the last west coast gatherings fell short on suitability and more suitable sites could have been easily found eastward, but less efforts been put into scouting eastern forrests

and lastly who said anything about needing plunker sp sailor & whatever to come by? those are your words not mine (you do tend to add your own interpretation of what others are saying dont u?) i was saying only that the east coast is suffering from the lack of nearby, easily reachable gatherings year after year, older veteran rainbows may make it alot less often, & lose contact with local family, & the biggest devastation is the sharp decrease in participation from newer family,
all up & down the east coast ive heard simular stories, how potlucks which for 30 years always drew 30-50 people dwindled to 3-5 just in the past several years when the tradition of moving coast to coast fairly was abandoned or deemed inpracticle
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I have to agree with HHB & Wandering Turn-up, blaming Vision Council for the lack of focalization in the East just doesn’t make sense. If east coast folks want to have the Annual move east, then y’all should be putting more energy into potlucks & regionals. If all the good focalizers have moved on, then find some new folks to focalize…use the regionals to scout for a good Annual site & if y’all find one, bring it to Vision Council.

Oh & by the way, 2nd & 3rd reliable rumor mongers have said that Family will be Oming in Wyoming for 2008
87 NC 92 CO 97 OR 02 MI 07 AR
88 TX 93 KY/AL 98 AZ 03 UT 08 WY(?)
89 NV 94 WY 99 PA 04 CA
90 MN 95 NM 00 MT 05 WV
91 VT 96 MO 01 ID 06 CO

I could have looked up the list on WelcomeHome, but that’s what I can remember. I might have MI and UT reversed. 87 and 88 were before my time. Where’s the pattern? OK, after CO, someplace stupid, then WY. But where’s this east/west pattern? Or has it not been present since 87?

I am wary of statements that mention how RFOLL and it’s Gatherings are "supposed" to be. A Gathering is like finding some fantasy creature in the National Forest, like a gryphon, or a dragon or something. It’s not supposed to be at all, not in this Universe, any way. It’s a miracle that it is. I haven’t found anybody that I think understands what it is any better than I do, and Lord knows I’m still trying to figure it out.
why did this thread turn into an argument thread all i did was ask a simple question where did council decide on for next year there doesn’t need to be any arguments where council decides is where it happens.