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Barry Plunker writes:

"E-mail calling for more communication"

> if folks are traveling the Rainbow Path going to Rainbow Gatherings, being
> Rainbow Family, eventually, they will hear everything said,
> everything written concerning every Rainbow Gathering, everywhere on
> Earth — and it takes very little vibration to travel clear around
> the world through all the Family - wow!! please consider this for a

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> moment…

> Yep, just like at Annual Gathering, when something happens,
> it seems like everyone knows, somehow, the Rainbow Telegraph, email,
> internut, gossip, this or that… somehow, and it seems LIKE MAGIC,
> and it is!!!!

When "something happens" the Rainbow Family as a whole are the people to know about it.

> Consider what happens when someone comes through the Front
> Gate, often folks all over the Gathering know this or that one or
> family is Home… yea! And when the Federales come as Storm Troopers
> or in Peace as Resource, the Word is passed… many eyes, many
> ears…. many mouths, many feet…

Too many "rent-a-cop" Shanta Sena with private radios, undisclosed meeting with Forest Service personnel, and "ole boy network" of scouts. Where does the "many feet" come in when most folks are unable to penetrate the "inner circle" you have helped create?

>
> Rainbow Family Tribe is of the Imagination — i magi nation
> (meaning of the magic of being in unity - a translation) So I open
> this SPEAKING TO THE TRIBE, to the RAINBOW of Earth and beyond, and
> specifically, to folks wanting/doing Rainbow Work/play:

Is this a lecture or an open discussion? Are you going to respond to the reactions to your ideas here, or are you just another Moses carrying down the tablets for us mortals to ponder?

>
> Our ways of communication, of reaching consensus - our
> agreements that we verbally and actually live and share with one

> another — our way of being with one another, in Gathering at Home
> and away Gathering on the Roads, through other Gatherings, Rainbow
> and others, all this is our shared path, our shared reality, our
> shared ideology, our shared vibrations, our shared energy…. and
> everyone of us, you, me, and everyone else always shares with one
> another every little bit of the TRIP… because SHARING IS THE
> TRIP….

Does this mean your inner circle of High Holies are willing to share their influence with the rest of us?

my best vibe is, if you are doing Rainbow business,
> communicating with the feds, planning operations, doing this and that
> for the Family, for the Gatherings… then SHARE THIS INFO, with your
> Family, your brothers and sisters…

You mean share it with your inner circle and receive approval from them?

> you want to hang off to the side, get your shit together,
> practice your show… okay then,

You will soon discover this summer how many folks are tired of the "Barry Plunker Movie" and have gotten their shit together. It was obvious last summer that you and the High Holies were powerless to remove the roadblock and ticketing by the L.E.O.s. You were powerless, despite your FS "connections" to prevent the L.E.O.s from violating our civil rights. Thank god the kids were "hanging off to the side" and decided to create their OWN movie.

> after this getting your own trip
> together, and you got something you want to have happen that involves
> other brothers and sisters, in this Family you are in, then comes the
> time, please PUT your SHOW out to the People, your brothers and
> sisters… Sooner is always better than later…

I think you will see next summer what years of neglect has sown.

> If you work out something with the Feds… no matter how
> small, if it ain’t your personal, individual business, AND it is
> something gonna have an impact on the Family, the Gatherings, etc.,
> et.al. then please, be not afraid to come forth, speak up, share the
> trip…

Your close circle has been dealing with the Forest Service for years, with little progress. Maybe a more direct confrontation with the FS by the "masses" will be more effective than the "personal, individual business" you and your friends have been involved in.

>
> Recently, a very clear example of someone acting, sharing stuff
> out, was when David Alexander English shared information on his
> contacts with Forest service’s envoy Jeff Kline… and through
> subsequent sharing of the information DID THE RIGHT THING…

HA! I’ll take your word for it.

>
> All this stuff going on with the Forest Service with Jeff
> Kline and Mark Rey… any and all this stuff OUTA be OUT in the
> OPEN… scout moneys, whatever… how, what when where and why…. NO
> BLAME…

The only openess you display is when you’re *caught* doing shit - and then come down from the mountain to tell us about it. When was the council called to decide whether David Alexander English "DID THE RIGHT THING" - or should I just believe you.

> The Feds have been seeking ways to manipulate Rainbow for years
> and years… in 1976, Montana, they sent in a psychologist to study
> us, like in a zoo…. to figure out ways to fuck with us… no

> blame… if the Feds sidle up to you… please let our Family know..

When will the Feds quit "sidling" up to you? When will you acknowledge that you and your close circle of friends are not only ineffectual but also dangerous to the interest of everyone in the Rainbow Family?

>
> Thank you David English for sharing…

For sharing ?? I didn’t see any post David wrote explaining his actions? If he has shared anything it was between you and your "cult of personalities" - not !!!

> (2) Why is the Govt suddenly wanting to work things out with
> us "accommodate" Rey letter to me (to me… by the way have any of
> you all written, or got a letter back???)

You want open sharing on our part how about doing the same.

> .. listen up, please…

The "Barry Plunker Movie" is not working, and has not worked for years. Folks have left in droves not because of the permit but because they were tired of having to deal with yours and the High Holies’ massive egos. Nothing got done and alot of people left in discust.

>
> (5) So now I will get to what is, to me, the ACTUAL REASON THE
> FOREST SERVICE IS CHANGING ITS TUNE:

yeah, this ought to be good!

>
> If you read the Reports on the gatherings in the last
> several years, you will read that "the long time rainbows (elders, as
> the FS calls them) just can not manage, control, influence the
> younger, tougher kids who are the predominant people at these
> Gatherings":…. something to that effect…

Do you really want to know the reason why? Because you and the rest of the High Holies had the kids in our Family. These kids don’t feel part of the process because the process has been subverted by the power trips and lack of caring you and the "Elders" have shown to the kids in the Rainbow Family. Too many of your so-called "Elders" abandoned the kids after Jerry died and left no mentoring or the passing down of traditions to them. By selfishly hording on to your own vainglorious prestige and influence you haven’t allow the younger generation fill your shoes and make decisions for themselves.

>
> John Twiss, now head of Law Enforcement, in Utah 2003, told
> me personally that there was no discipline, etc… nearly mirroring
> what was being written into these Reports UNTIL THIS YEAR…

Pretty godamn sad indictment. You negelected the kids - kept them away from sharing the responsiblities of running a gathering for all because you and your inner circle were afraid of losing your godamn precious power and influence within the Rainbow Family

> yes, folks what i believe is in the report now, after Colorado 2006 is
> this:
>
> SOMEHOW, THE OLDER RAINBOWS MANAGED TO CONTROL THE YOUNG RAINBOWS
> NEW TACTICS MUST BE DEVELOPED

>
> Now, you and i know that us older rainbows did not manage to
> control any of them young rainbows… like me, likely you are barely
> able to manage yourself let alone manage anybody else.. and control
> ain’t my bag nor is it the bag of any other True Rainbow…

It’s all about control with your bunch. Seriously either you’re being totally disingenious or you’re dangerously out-of-step with what is really going on within the Rainbow Family.


i spend a
> lot of my time trying keep my own ass under control… as most folks
> do… and thanks to all the brothers and sisters who share all this
> and by giving and sharing vibes with me, help me to keep my shit
> together… when i blow it, like most folks, it ain’t pretty… and
> the Gatherings are a place where i always am looking for support and
> good vibes… which puts me on point;

Maybe you ought to get out of your high holy lawn chair and spend an evening sitting around a fire with the kids and godamn to what have to say. You’re too busy trying to them!

>
> The young Gathering People, those amazing, fine young brothers

You mean the folks who still don’t have any say over scouting, banking, or any other function you and the High Holies control?

> and sisters, ragged but real as they certainly were… even the hard
> core, getting down, roll around, tussle if you must, young brothers
> and sisters, and the ole hard core crusties, somehow, through their
> own personal efforts,

It’s been their own personal effort , without any help from you.

>and because a whole bunch of folks, long time
> family, and peace activists spoke up, lived up, and ASKED, OPENLY:
> for ‘PEACE, WE WIN"… NO BLOOD ON THE LAND AMONG US, AND
> THAT GOES FOR ALL WHO COME ON BOARD, FAMILY AND FED ALIKE…

Let’s see….after years of using ineffectual tactics in dealing with the L.E.O.s, the kids took matters into their own hands and now you want to credit "peace activists" for not having a bloody riot on your hands?

>
> And the younger people, and the older people… all of us
> together, all the generations of the Gathering, came together in
> Unity in Peace with Just Us being with one another… and the Feds
> damm sure pushed it to the maximum and they went after and beat on
> the young un’s that is for damm sure… and they damm sure did their
> very best to hurt the Gathering people and the
> young un’s they picked out special… BUT, after a couple of tussles,
> where the Feds managed to get shit going…. and folks, plus Shanti

> Sena (people who been there, done that before) did the good deeds,
> and peace rolled up…

When the girl got maced by the L.E.O.s none of the High Holies stood up to the L.E.O.s and prevented any further acts of abuse. The girl was told to keep her mouth shut. When the brother was pursued by the L.E.O. inside the gathering for "supposely" throwing a rock at the Feds the day before, the High Holies took the FS’s side, sicced the Shanta Sena goons on him, turned him over the the L.E.O.s, and pressured him to sign a ticket, and said nothing while the L.E.O.s searched tents and harrassed Family - this was the "good deed"? No wonder about a hundred kids circled the L.E.O.s and tried to "unarrest" him.

> The sight of folks doing "Non-violence training" in the Meadow,
> role playing, etc… teaching people peace way… wonderful…
> long-time shanti sena folks, new folks, young folks, older folks,
> generations learning peace, non-violent ways… all this helped…
> folks wanted to do Peace…

You concept of peace is different than mine. Your "Peace" is to do nothing while the Forest Service, year after year, harrasses our Family. Your "peace" is photo-ops with the same Man that violated our civil rights just the day before.
Gandhi didn’t sit around gabbing with the British and getting his photo taken with them. He staged massive civil disobedence and - just what these "uncontrollable kids" did. Now you want to take credit for "teaching peace" while hundred of family were ticketed at the FS roadblock?

>
> The young uns’ showed RESPECT for the Rainbow Way of
> Gathering…. and many of them young uns’ have been with us,
> Gathering with us, for many years…. some of them been coming to
> Gatherings all their lives… many of them are as much ‘olders" -

> Earlys - in the Gatherings, as many of us are - and they have been
> there, seen that, and know just how messed up some of us long time
> folks are (still not getting along, how silly)…

….and what? they’re suppose to roll their eyes and shake their heads while you allow Rainbow to be destroyed by inaction and petty rivalries brough on by yours and the High Holies’ massive egos?
>
> AND, this year, among the "earlys" there was a lot of laying
> down the silly shit taking place and folks, long time folks with long
> time this and that, stuff, baggage.. set their bags down and stood up
> for the People in Solidarity.in Respect.. and the young folks saw
> this… and responded in turn…

Please tell me you’re not taking credit for folks getting so tired of being harrassed and nothing being done by the so-called "high Holies" that they took matters in their own hands. Your "do-nothing" approach while our rights were being violated almost created a riot.

>
> They saw that we, you, me, many of the long-time family
> coming together, being together… and they saw us "looking out" for
> them, looking after the Gathering, they saw we were for real…


They saw nothing of the sort. After they changed their underwear the L.E.O.s realized that Barry Plunker couldn’t persuade his "followers" to do nothing and the young kids were taking charge of their own destiny.

> in this coming year of doing Rainbow Business, digging Legal
> shitters, whatever, please folks, remember that the young folks saw
> us for being real…

The young people saw you and the High Holies of being lazy fucking hippies who don’t care about them or their rights. They saw a bunch of old fossils sitting around doing nothing but lecturing them on "peace" while their sisters were being maced and their brothers being beat down by the law. They were being real by saying NO and driving out the forest pigs. Go back to your lawbooks, Plunker, the rainbow revolution will be held without you.

> so did the Feds…
> and the Solidarity of the People is with us, as never
> before… so take heart… do the doo.. and keep the people informed,
> keep the generations in mind, keep the solidarity and unity, please.

Let’s see, the High Holies did nothing at the time but lectured the kids about their "irresponsible" actions and are now trying to take credit for it?

Next summer if the L.E.O.s try to block the road and issue tickets they will be met by a massive civil disobedence demonstration and direct action. It will not be "business as usual"

If you think "unity" is doing nothing, take a real hard look around. Perhaps you should’ve helped mentor these kids long ago rather than listen to you own self talk.

>
> And if you got something going that is Rainbow Stuff…
> remember Respect is Sharing the Trip…

Everyone get prepared for a peaceful controntation this summer against the civil rights abuses committed by the Forest Service.

< ain’t nothing you or anyone
> can do for the Gatherings without the rest of the folks having a
> say….

take your own advice

> please be Cool, let us not have a "failure to communicate" at
> least with one another, sister, brother.. whoever…

It’s unbelievable you don’t know what the score is. Perhaps had you sat around the fire last summer and actually to the kids rather than lecturing ‘em, wouldn’t be now having a "failure to communicate" with the young folks in our Family.

> the Light being raised is the Voice of the People being heard.

namaste;
bodhi

Hear here, Ih tink this iz totally necessary an inevitable, teh joung shall inherit our ongoing hippy lifestyle, and inprove on our hearty never cop-out spirtit.
sorry no man , our common enemy cannot be the forest service . they are too forgivable . gotta focus on the act of revolution like to plunk a zlookr .
Bodhi, did you realize that Barry’s e-mail was posted in full in the thread "E-mail calling for more communication"?

I felt like the whole call for communication was some kind of joke…this is the second e-mail I’ve gotten about this but Barry didn’t communicate his point in a kind enough manner for me to be willing to share it on the first round. I feel like the communication thing is BS cuz for months he’s been encouraging folks to e-mail the FS with their opinions of the FS deal knowing that there are some folks refuse to communicate with the FS in any form other than when they have to. I’m one of those folks, I’m not talking to the FS unless they come up to me on-site or if they’re hanging out in front of the kitchen without a guide. I sure as in the hell am not e-mailing the FS…they get more than enough info by cruising Family forums, groups & the like…IMO there should be less communication with the FS and more EQUAL communication with Family (& then there’s the whole ‘you snooze you lose’ factor or in this case maybe it’s ‘the media opp don’t make the rest of the Family’s communication stop’)

Cinnamon
basically, just gather 2 gether, at one place, at one time, an hang out, get high together vibe.
As somebody whose witnessed the drama firsthand, I have to say: something’s got to change. The forest service is not our friend. My father, a FS biologist, is one of the good guys. He fights the people he works for. The gathering, every summer, is a huge act of civil disobedience. If we give up, they win. We will never win by resorting to their tactics. (i.e. violence) With all respect to Barry (who I’ve met personally) and the other old timers, their oligarchy and self importance are nonbeneficial to the beast we face. Only through the true Rainbow spirit (i.e. Jesus, Krshna) will we succeed. Egos are counter productive to our governing process.
love ya’ bye
I think its bout time for a revolution !!! All our rights are being taken away.

in the news at the moment a group of people are trying to put a ban on birth control? What the FUCK is that,
they have banned prayer in schools ond you only have so much free speach,Stupid shitt like this is whats ruining this country, We are not free. unless your rich and then your still not free your just carefree.
With all due respect, Bodhi….

Work is power in Rainbow Land. Want it done your way? You do it. Need help? Get some friends together. Need more friends? Hang out for years and years, work well with others, and others will work with you. When it’s time to decide where to go and what to do, you’ll have lots of folks agreeing with you in council.

I do agree, however, that the Family has a bit a of a disconnect with the younger crowd. It is, unfortunately, the result of high turnover, not the cause. You’ve seen this before: people offer all kinds of help then don’t show when it’s time to get it done. It’s counter-productive and infuriating, so those who’ve been doing this for a while just learn to count on who they can count on.

It really is all about who shows up and actually does what they actually say they will do. This level of credibility only happens when you consistently show up and do what you say you will do for years and years. You just get used to relying on people who prove they are reliable and tired of folks who offer the moon and stars and deliver naught because they were sidetracked by a sweet sister or a swimmin hole or 420 or whatever.

The Gathering is whatever you make it. If you spend your time sitting in your own "kid kitchen" complaining about the actions of the old farts, you are not out learning how the gathering could be better or how to scout, deal with the authoritahs, build a better oven, make dinner for 1000 more people, etc.

And you’ll probably not have a very good time. Take it from someone who used to hang out in a "kid kitchen" (with you, personally, at times) complaining about the damn High Holies (Remember all the "Elder Schmelder" signs in AZ 98?) I started leaving the kitchen at home and getting out to meet everyone. It turns out the old farts were once kids too and they really want your help. You just have to do what you say you’re going to do.

First learn crawl, then learn fly. In Babylon parlance, CEO is not an entry-level position (unless your last name is Bush, and you see how well that’s turned out!). "We’re all busy learnin’ on a learnin’ curve." All of us.

See you at the next shitter-diggin!
Arjay
Yeh, letz see dah pigz dig our shitterz 4 uz, then we-all kan see how our taxes are well spent on their exorbitant salaries.

"See you at the next shitter-diggin!"
Hip-Hop nation has overtaken festivals and effected gatherings in a negative manner. I can’t see a high-holy mentoring a kid w/ a sideways visor who is rockin out to 50 cent.
mentoring …..that smacks of a patronizing know it all attitude that i feel is at the base of all this drivell in this post ……most of my friends are 30 years my junior …..im not here to teach them anything ….maby to lern a bit from them …..realy i just love em n share feeling on the’ outs’ of society . a society that i find unacceptable .
yeh we all learn frum each other, only if we all are hip to it.